"Ice-Breakers" & Conversation Starters With Women
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***SUCCESS
STORY***
If there are
people out there who still don't believe in the cocky
& funny, QUIT DOUBTIN' IT AND START WORKIN' IT!
The other night I was at a burger joint near my
office. It's one of those grungy independent places
that's popular with the locals, and out of towners
make a point to visit if they're here for something
else. The line had snaked around, and a group of three
cuties was standing in front of my table. They were
talking about what they'd heard, and one of them said
she was looking forward to their fries. Since I
had a bunch of fries in front of me, I made eye
contact and gave my fries a Vanna White flourish with
my hands. She said, "Wow those look good. Can I?"
I offered her one of my fries. She dipped it in my cup
of ketchup, and right as she popped it in her mouth, I
looked her in the eye and said "By the way, I
double-dip." In the space of two seconds, her
expressions ranged from shock at my brashness, to
wondering whether she should be grossed out, to
laughing. I knew I could have gotten her
e-mail/number... and the thing is, I didn't even want
to, because I've been seeing a solid eight. Sure,
there are hotter, but until recently I would have
thought she was entirely out of my league. And I
ALWAYS bust her balls. She's always coming up to me,
saying "Gimme kiss". I think for a second and say,
"Umm... no, but thanks!" And then she's
enthusiastically kissing me. Or more. I'm not the
hottest guy out there. I'm pretty fat, actually. But
women hate how desperation smells, and if a beautiful
woman sees that you're not looking for just
anyone who'll return the conversation, and that you're
not intimidated by their looks, that's GOLD, man,
GOLD.
In fact, it's
even worked for me at the office. Now, yes, here
you have to be more careful. And it doesn't substitute
for competence. But my boss sees I'm not intimidated,
and I get stuff done. In fact, today I just landed a
$5K raise. You must be tired of hearing it...
well, hear it again. Dave, you da man.
E Michigan
>>>MY COMMENTS:
Nice! Well, I
think my favorite line in your email was... "...women
hate how desperation smells..." Because this
doesn't make a whole lotta sense to most of the guys
who read it, let me do the honors of breakin' it down
for ya... When someone says something like this,
what they're trying to say is that there's something
about "desperation" that women pick up on... but it's
not easy to describe. Desperation comes across
in all kinds of subtle ways, from how you talk to a
woman, to the eye contact that you make, to how often
you call her. Women can "smell" it because women
are approximately TEN TIMES better at reading body
language than men. Your body language says everything
about you to a woman... so, if you want to get better
at attracting women, you'd better start paying
attention to and taking control of it.
Start with your
posture. Lift your chest. Lean back, not
forward. Leaning forward is usually a "needy" signal.
Leaning back is usually a signal of strength.
Slow down your movements. Fast movements convey
nervousness and skittishness. Slow movements
convey self control and strength. It's a good
idea to take some time and study the body language of
guys who are successful with women. Watch closely, and
pay attention to EVERYTHING. Even though
something doesn't SEEM like it's important, it
probably is. I have a good friend who holds his
drink a certain way when he's talking to a woman that
he's interested in. He does it almost every
time. Is it important? You do the math.
Thanks for the email. Good stuff.
***COMMENTS FROM
A WOMAN***
Hey Dave -
Ok, I can't help myself. I've got to comment again. I
commented last week in response to a writer who was
disturbed with your methods of meeting women. And now
this week, I find another, equally amusing halfwit who
just doesn't get it (the one you affectionately called
a "crack smoker".. hehehe). Is it me or the rest
of the world? Jesus, people. It's not
disrespectful, it's not meant to be hurtful or
demeaning. It's called TEASING ... it's a playful,
flattering form of teasing. Let me give you an
example of a guy I met recently, from a female's point
of view -- one guy's success story (and unless he gets
your newsletter or has read your materials, he's
probably totally unaware of HOW he "hooked" me so
easily). I met a guy online several months ago, we
chatted for awhile and quickly discovered that we had
a very compatible quick-witted sense of humor (he was
cocky and very funny from the get-go...I loved it).
Every time we talked on the phone, he'd find a way to
bust my chops and make me laugh. (Sounds cliche, but
"He had me at hello." hehehe) He'd always point out
some imperfection of mine and blow it all out of
proportion and talk about how it just wasn't going to
work out because of all my flaws (kidding the whole
time, of course) ... one being the fact that I'm not
particularly very well endowed in the chest region. A
modest 38B. So after we met that first time, he walked
me to my car that night, and as he turned to walk
towards his car, he paused and turned back long enough
to say "oh, and you're right, you're not very busty."
Shocked, I just said, "oh get outta here you *&$%@# "
and jabbed him in the arm. And I grinned the whole way
home. And I couldn't wait to see him again.
I hope you consider including this in your newsletter
to encourage guys to keep trying your methods. THEY DO
WORK! With the negative comments in the last couple of
newsletters from "outraged" readers, I'd hate for any
guy to second-guess that this stuff works. Because as
far as I'm concerned, there just aren't enough of you
guys (cocky & funny) around. At least I can't find
'em.
J, in Maryland
>>>MY COMMENTS:
Yeah, well I
think that the REAL problem that the "halfwits" and
"crack smokers" of past newsletters are having is that
they don't GET IT. I've found that women HATE
the idea that guys are doing ANYTHING "intentionally"
to become more successful in the dating world.
Anything that has to be "learned", really freaks some
women out (as a side note, I've found that most of the
women I've talked to in person about my ideas were OK
with them. On occasion, a woman will freak out, but
after they actually "get" what I'm talking about, they
almost universally LIKE the ideas). The REAL
profound insight that I've had relating to this topic
is that women will often SAY that they want one thing,
but then, when they GET it, they seem like they don't
want it. On the other hand, women will often SAY
that they don't like certain types of guys or certain
traits, then they'll turn around and SLEEP with one of
these exact guys. Keep in mind, we're talking
about women here. I don't mean to pick on them... the
fact is that GUYS have their own set of bizarre
behaviors too. But, since everyone is reading
these Mailbags to learn about how to attract women,
we're going to have to skip this discussion (Wink -
Wink) of these exact guys. And, for all the guys
who doubt that what we're talking about here "works",
just ask yourself these questions:
1) Is what
you're CURRENTLY doing working?
2) Isn't it worth the risk to try ANYTHING else if
there's even a CHANCE that it will actually work?
Nice.
Thanks for your email.
***QUESTION***
Hey Dave,
Been getting
your newsletter for about two months now. Also got
both your book and your DVD. They're just unbelievably
superb!!!! The stuffs in your book and DVD are so easy
to be understood. It is like reading "How to double
your dates for Dummies". I was always nervous when I
was around hot looking girls. Now, I actually have the
confidence to walk up to them and ask for their
emails/numbers. It's such a big shift in such a short
time. Composure is almost what the girls are looking
for. Without it, they can sense you got no game. You
really got the stuff. It works wonders. I'm
certainly still new to this and I am practicing
everyday constantly. I have no problems asking
girls for the emails. I understand how the composure,
voice tone and everything works. But this is my
problem. Some girls actually say this exact same lines
like "Why don't you give me your email/number and I'll
email/call you." I really am stuck after they said
this. I just can't figure out some C&F to say at this
point to amplify the situation. I am ready to be
enlightened by your teaching. My new Sensei,
Big bow to you,
E.F Canada
>>>MY COMMENTS:
lol... I love
questions like this one. Yeah, when you start
getting good at approaching women, you will start
having all kinds of far-out things happen. As a
matter of fact, some of my favorite stories that my
friends and I laugh about are about times that I
started conversations with women. Here, let me
confuse you for a moment... Let me give you a couple
of different perspectives on your situation. I
have one good friend who has been with literally
HUNDREDS of women. He told me a story about a
woman that said this to him. He asked her for her
number, and she said, "Well, why don't you write down
your number and I'll call you?" He didn't even
hesitate... he shot back, "Don't give me that SH**,
write your number down!" She smiled and wrote
her number down. One time, I was out talking to
a girl... I asked her to write down her email and
number, and she said, "You give me your number" etc.
I looked at her and said, "Never mind". Then, as
the conversation went on, she started making comments
about talking to me in the future, giving her my
number, etc. I just said, "Nah, you're not
serious. If you were, you wouldn't be playing games
with me, and you'd just give me your number".
She wrote it
down. Funny enough, my standard response to "Why
don't you give me your number instead and I'll call
you" is to just look at her and say, "Write it down.
It will be OK..." and then point to the paper. That
probably works about 50% of the time. You have
what I like to refer to as a "high quality problem".
Remember what you've learned in my DVD program about
what a woman is REALLY looking for. Then be it.
Just because a woman says, "Give me your number
instead", doesn't mean that you've lost control.
It's usually just a test.
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***COMMENT***
OMG okay Dave,
I'm a female and
have been reading your newsletters to try and figure
out where guys get their "game" from. Now that I know
it's from you, I would like to say you're a total
genius. Like I've had guys use your tips on me and at
first I've been like "what the hell" then later on in
the conversation, we were exchanging numbers and
kisses. you must be like a woman in disguise or
something. You are so awesome.
>>>MY COMMENTS:
Well, one thing
is for sure... I'm NOT a woman in disguise.
lol...
I don't know
many women who could explain this stuff the way I do.
Oh, and feel free to send your picture and phone
number with your emails in the future. If
there's one thing that's better than a man recognizing
my genius, it's a cute gal recognizing it.
By the way, you
said something that was very interesting in your
email. You said that when guys start using these
techniques with you, at FIRST you respond with "what
the hell"... but LATER ON you wind up kissing and
exchanging numbers. Very VERY interesting.
This is a KEY point that most guys just can't grasp or
work with. Thanks for laying it out.
***QUESTION***
hello there.
can u please let
me know, what is meant by a wussy.? I've came across
this word a lot, in ur newsletter, wussy, and wussies,
but couldn't figure out, what it means. I didn't find
the meaning of that word in the dictionary too. as you
used in ur letter, Women aren't attracted to Wussies
what is meant by that. waiting for ur reply bye
>>>MY COMMENTS:
Yes, I can
explain the concept of what a "Wussy" is quite easily.
If you say things like "waiting for your ur reply",
you're communicating like a Wussy. If you don't
know what a Wussy is, you probably are one. Guys
who aren't Wussies know what a "Wussy" is because they
usually MAKE FUN OF THEM a lot. I know, I
know... I'm being harsh. But, I used to be a BIG
TIME Wussy. It was a problem. I used to call
women all the time, kiss up to them, give away my
power to them, and every other WUSS-ISH thing you
could do. In other words, I'm an expert. A
Wussy is a guy who gives away his power to women, and
behaves in a "submissive" way. Don't do this.
It's the DARK SIDE, if there ever was one.
***QUESTION***
David,
I've been
reading your newsletter for about a month now and I
respect your honesty and perspectives. The things
you've said makes lots of sense and I have no doubts
that they work. In fact, I have observed others use
your techniques they and get remarkable results with
the ladies. Now, when I read your newsletters, I
thought to myself and realized that I have been
somewhat using your "cocky and funny" techniques
unconsciously... ie, teasing the girls, making fun of
them but not putting them down. (I guess its part of
my personality). I make some of the girls I work with
as well as my customers laugh. The thing is, when I go
out to a bar or a nightclub, or anywhere else for that
matter, I tend to clam up for some reason. I might
even give the impression to others that I'm a tight
ass because I don't open my mouth. I know I can keep
the ball rolling once I have the girls attention. My
problem is the ice breaker. The very first thing I say
AFTER introducing myself, or even BEFORE depending on
the situation. I feel like I don't have any
interesting things to say to start up a conversation.
My question is how can I prepare myself to be more
cocky per say? What ice breakers can I use and not
look like a wuss at the same time? I try to listen in
on the guys next to me pick up girls, try to hear what
they are saying. But I'm hard of hearing and its quite
hard in noisy situations for me to hear anything
unless my ear is literally close. Interested in any
perspectives and feedback you can give to start off.
Thanks A.W.G. -
Illinois
>>>MY COMMENTS:
Most guys are
afraid of approaching women and starting
conversations. When you say the words "ice
breaker", you ASSUME that a woman is going to respond
to you "coldly". You know, Ice = Cold. The fact is
that there are a certain percentage of women out there
who are happy, open and receptive in general, and a
certain amount that are cold, closed and NOT
receptive. I had a guy come to my last seminar
in Los Angeles who went out and started approaching
women. He came back into the seminar the next
day and told this story...
He said that he
couldn't believe how he let his past negative
programming stop him from starting conversations with
women. He had gone out and walked up to women, one
after the other, and just simply said, "Hi, I'm out
meeting people tonight, what's your name?" and women
were giving him all kinds of positive responses.
Just remember that most women will respond somewhere
in the range of "neutral" to "positive" if you say
almost ANYTHING to them. Now, if you want to
start conversations in bars and nightclubs and you
just can't get the nerve up to do it, try this... Find
a BUSY place near the bar where people are lining up
to order drinks. Find a place where people are
literally crammed together like sardines. Work your
way up to the bar at the BUSIEST spot, and either
stand there, or get a chair there. The idea is that
you want to be where a lot of women will walk up to
the bar during the evening and ACCIDENTALLY bump into
you. If you REALLY want to make this work for
you, wear a loud or unique shirt... something that has
a soft, "feely" texture. Over the course of a
few hours, some conversations will start BY
THEMSELVES.
Women will say,
"excuse me" and try to get past you. Some women
will ask you to order a drink for them. Some
will just bump up against you on accident and then
apologize. Take a few minutes, and think up some
good responses that fit your personality... and have
them ready.
Try:
"Look, if you
wanted to start a conversation with me you could have
just said, "hi", you didn't have to be violent about
it."
That should get
you started. The point is that there's a way to
put yourself in a situation that automatically sparks
conversations. You just need to be ready when it
happens. This kind of thing should help you get
past the fear and hesitation to start conversations on
your own.
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***QUESTION***
David D.,
First off, I'd
like to thank you for taking the time to put all of
this material together. As a guy who is finally
beginning to understand the game and is on his way to
"get it", I'd like to thank you. I'm still not
completely to the place I'd like to be, but I'm on my
way (being able to walk up to any woman who I'd like
to meet and being able to secure digits and lead
things the rest of the way from there). The ideas that
I'm finding that really help me keep my focus (and not
get too nervous/needy) are many from your advanced
program that I purchased. ex- What they think of you
is their business, and acting almost too comfortable
around them. I'm also in the process of reading Comedy
Writing Secrets by Helitzer and have 3 other books
purchased (of those you recommended) that will be my
next projects. Okay, on to the comment and
question. I've read recently that studies have shown
(can't remember if this was from Reader's Digest or
what) that even if you're a shy person, acting
outgoing will improve your mental health and get rid
of that feeling of seclusion that many introverted
people have. On to the question... in your
Advanced DVD
program, the idea of congruence is mentioned several
times, mostly as that you have to be congruent when
you talk to a woman. This concept seems to be rather
elusive and I was wondering if you could go into more
detail about what "being congruent" entails.
Thanks, T.C.
from Virginia
>>>MY COMMENTS:
Sure, the idea
of being "congruent" when you communicate simply means
to have ALL LEVELS of your communication "in
alignment" with each other\ and "saying the same
thing". If you're asking a woman for her number,
but you're looking around nervously and hesitating,
it's not "congruent". On the other hand, if
you're saying, "Write down your email and number for
me" while taking out a pen and paper... as if it's the
147th time that you've done it, it's CONGRUENT.
Most people don't realize that they're sending MIXED
MESSAGES all the time. Have you ever asked
someone "What's wrong?" and had them say, "NOTHING'S
WRONG! Why does everyone keep asking me what's wrong?"
That's a mixed message. And it's not congruent.
You want to line up ALL of your communication.
Your body language, voice tone, words, etc. All
of the different specific body language, voice tone,
and gestures that I recommend in my programs have a
single goal in mind: To help you be 100% CONGRUENT
when you are communicating with women. The more
congruent you are, and the more you use the techniques
that I'm teaching, the better your responses from
women will become.
***COMMENTS***
Y'know, my mom
actually wanted to comment on your program. She's been
teaching me and my brothers about what women REALLY
want from men ever since I was very small. She's been
teaching us pretty much the same material that you
cover in your book and advanced series (which I
recently picked up by the way, I fell so much in love
with the book I just couldn't resist, it's been
GREAT!), and she just wanted me to tell you that you
hit it right on the head! Her saying has always been
pretty much: "Women don't want a hard-ass, but
women also don't want a BITCH-ASS, either." I have
tried other dating success trainings, and this one is
by far my favorite. There's... one... that I tried
before yours. Theirs isn't NEARLY as good as yours,
because the techniques they teach are way to
unnatural, too analytical, doesn't let you be yourself
at all, and doesn't work for everyone in every
situation. Your service is the best I've seen so far,
because IT ALLOWS YOU TO BE YOURSELF, while HONESTLY
sparking ATTRACTION in a female, and automatically
DOES NOT work on a woman with a stick up her ass! I
can tell you put a lot of work into this, you've
defiantly touched many lives. Not just for men,
but women too. Thanks David.
C.D. from Texas
>>>MY COMMENTS:
Oh YEAHHHHH!
Dude, even your MOM endorses my stuff. This is
out of control. You know, actually... you suck.
I wish that MY MOM would have taught me this stuff,
instead of teaching me wisdom such as "You need to buy
women more things" and "A man should always pay for
things", etc. And any mom who would teach her
son: "Women don't want a hard-ass, but women also
don't want a BITCH-ASS, either." ...has my respect.
And to comment on your experience with the techniques
and systems that others teach on how to meet women...
My guess is that
95% of the others who have written books on this topic
or developed other programs are doing it for the MONEY
alone. In other words, their main focus is the
CASH, and NOT helping guys improve with women.
Now, I certainly enjoy the cash. No argument there.
But my MAIN OBJECTIVE is to have the absolute BEST
system and materials that are available ANYWHERE, at
ANY PRICE. I have spent a LOT of time, effort
and energy to figure out what works to attract women.
Here's the test:
Go download my
online eBook, and order up one of my CD/DVD programs.
You can get both to try out for free... with zero
risk. THEN, go buy another book on the topic, or
whatever else you can find (make sure it comes with a
100% money-back guarantee). My bet is that
you'll return everything else before you've even
finished reading it (or listening, or whatever) and
that I couldn't pry my stuff out of your hands with a
CROWBAR. My stuff WORKS BETTER, and is easier to
use than all the other stuff out there, period.
And, probably the MOST IMPORTANT benefit is something
that was mentioned in this newsletter... when you
learn how and why women feel ATTRACTION, and you learn
how to trigger it with your communication and body
language, you don't have to use a bunch of "unnatural
tricks" or dishonest techniques that "feel wrong".
I'll teach you how to develop that "innate" or natural
part of yourself that is already there... and give you
the correct perspective and programming to get
RESULTS.
Try it, you'll
like it. And, if you don't like it, you've lost
nothing... because all of my stuff comes with a "try
it before you buy it" zero risk policy. So, do
this... Go download my online eBook "Double Your
Dating" right now, and you'll be reading it within a
few minutes. You can download it here:
And go order a
copy of my Advanced Dating Techniques CD/DVD program.
This program is the most complete, in-depth program in
the world for learning how to overcome fear, approach
women, get numbers, get dates, meet women online, and
take things to a "physical" level without fear or
rejection.
Go watch some
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